Database Maintnenance Plan

Good Afternoon
I am using database maintenance plans in order to perform
Backups, including optimisation, index re-builds etc.
The problem is that I have discovered that the Maintenance
Plans do not always perform the Backup, although the rest
of the plans perform normally: -
Two Maintenance Plans performing Full Backup, one at
midday and one in the evening, monday to friday, deleting
old files, re-building indexes, re-sizing databases and
optimising unused space.
Two Maintenance Plans performing Transaction Log Backups,
one from 08:00 to 11:00 and the other 13:00 to 18:, monday
to friday, deleting old files and re-building indexes.
There is plenty of space on the Server to allow for the
Backups. E.g. The drive for the Transaction Log Backups
has over 5Gb of space available, the collective size of
the Backups never total more than 350Mb.
I created these Maintenance Plans, and I am registered on
the SQL Server as a System Administrator.
Thank You In Advance
Tony C.
Make sure that you have specified a report file for the maint plan and check that file for error messages.
Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
"Tony C" <anonymous@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:20d201c4279b$33e423a0$a601280a@.phx.gbl...
> Good Afternoon
> I am using database maintenance plans in order to perform
> Backups, including optimisation, index re-builds etc.
> The problem is that I have discovered that the Maintenance
> Plans do not always perform the Backup, although the rest
> of the plans perform normally: -
> Two Maintenance Plans performing Full Backup, one at
> midday and one in the evening, monday to friday, deleting
> old files, re-building indexes, re-sizing databases and
> optimising unused space.
> Two Maintenance Plans performing Transaction Log Backups,
> one from 08:00 to 11:00 and the other 13:00 to 18:, monday
> to friday, deleting old files and re-building indexes.
> There is plenty of space on the Server to allow for the
> Backups. E.g. The drive for the Transaction Log Backups
> has over 5Gb of space available, the collective size of
> the Backups never total more than 350Mb.
> I created these Maintenance Plans, and I am registered on
> the SQL Server as a System Administrator.
> Thank You In Advance
>
> Tony C.
|||Thanks for this, the Maintenance Plans were producing the
Logs..
It would seem that one of the Applications we are using
can hold up other Transactions when it is left in a
certain state, I've therefore got a bit of debugging to
do!!
Tony C
>--Original Message--
>Make sure that you have specified a report file for the
maint plan and check that file for error messages.
>--
>Tibor Karaszi, SQL Server MVP
>http://www.karaszi.com/sqlserver/default.asp
>
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Database Maintenance - Order of Actions

Is there anyway to make the maintenance plan delete the backup files
BEFORE it backs up. My backups are failing due to lack of disk space,
because it essentially creates two copies of backups before deleting.
I know i can just write a script to delete them before hand, but it
would be alot neater to use the maintenace plan because the maintenance
plan is more dynamic that the script. Suggestions?
Kelly
Yes. If you create a backup plan using the Database Maintenance Wizard, you
can set the amount of time you want to keep the backup files. In SQL 2005 it
translates in a Maintenance Cleanup Task.
"KellyLeia@.gmail.com" wrote:

> Is there anyway to make the maintenance plan delete the backup files
> BEFORE it backs up. My backups are failing due to lack of disk space,
> because it essentially creates two copies of backups before deleting.
> I know i can just write a script to delete them before hand, but it
> would be alot neater to use the maintenace plan because the maintenance
> plan is more dynamic that the script. Suggestions?
> Kelly
>
|||"Edgardo Valdez, MCTS, MCITP, MCSD, MCDBA"
<EdgardoValdezMCTSMCITPMCSDMCDBA@.discussions.micro soft.com> wrote in message
news:33C5A070-12C7-4123-A72F-179C900DEC03@.microsoft.com...
> Yes. If you create a backup plan using the Database Maintenance Wizard,
> you
> can set the amount of time you want to keep the backup files. In SQL 2005
> it
> translates in a Maintenance Cleanup Task.
>
Right, 2000 is the same way. But as KellyLeia points out, that deletion
occurs AFTER the backup completes... if successul.
The problem is, if the backup fails, the deletion never occurs.
In addtion, I'd caution against doing what Kelly wants to do. Because if
the backup fails for another reason, you've already deleted one of your
backups.
Personally, I'd try to invest in more disk space if possible.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> "KellyLeia@.gmail.com" wrote:
|||Conviently, we have tape backups that run at 4am (the db backups run
between 1 and 2 am). So if the job fails, we've still got yesterday's
backup on tape. If it fails as it did, i don't get in till 8am, so the
damage is done. Thanks for your help guys.
Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> "Edgardo Valdez, MCTS, MCITP, MCSD, MCDBA"
> <EdgardoValdezMCTSMCITPMCSDMCDBA@.discussions.micro soft.com> wrote in message
> news:33C5A070-12C7-4123-A72F-179C900DEC03@.microsoft.com...
> Right, 2000 is the same way. But as KellyLeia points out, that deletion
> occurs AFTER the backup completes... if successul.
> The problem is, if the backup fails, the deletion never occurs.
> In addtion, I'd caution against doing what Kelly wants to do. Because if
> the backup fails for another reason, you've already deleted one of your
> backups.
> Personally, I'd try to invest in more disk space if possible.
>

Database Maintenance - Order of Actions

Is there anyway to make the maintenance plan delete the backup files
BEFORE it backs up. My backups are failing due to lack of disk space,
because it essentially creates two copies of backups before deleting.
I know i can just write a script to delete them before hand, but it
would be alot neater to use the maintenace plan because the maintenance
plan is more dynamic that the script. Suggestions?
KellyYes. If you create a backup plan using the Database Maintenance Wizard, you
can set the amount of time you want to keep the backup files. In SQL 2005 it
translates in a Maintenance Cleanup Task.
"KellyLeia@.gmail.com" wrote:
> Is there anyway to make the maintenance plan delete the backup files
> BEFORE it backs up. My backups are failing due to lack of disk space,
> because it essentially creates two copies of backups before deleting.
> I know i can just write a script to delete them before hand, but it
> would be alot neater to use the maintenace plan because the maintenance
> plan is more dynamic that the script. Suggestions?
> Kelly
>|||"Edgardo Valdez, MCTS, MCITP, MCSD, MCDBA"
<EdgardoValdezMCTSMCITPMCSDMCDBA@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:33C5A070-12C7-4123-A72F-179C900DEC03@.microsoft.com...
> Yes. If you create a backup plan using the Database Maintenance Wizard,
> you
> can set the amount of time you want to keep the backup files. In SQL 2005
> it
> translates in a Maintenance Cleanup Task.
>
Right, 2000 is the same way. But as KellyLeia points out, that deletion
occurs AFTER the backup completes... if successul.
The problem is, if the backup fails, the deletion never occurs.
In addtion, I'd caution against doing what Kelly wants to do. Because if
the backup fails for another reason, you've already deleted one of your
backups.
Personally, I'd try to invest in more disk space if possible.
> "KellyLeia@.gmail.com" wrote:
>> Is there anyway to make the maintenance plan delete the backup files
>> BEFORE it backs up. My backups are failing due to lack of disk space,
>> because it essentially creates two copies of backups before deleting.
>> I know i can just write a script to delete them before hand, but it
>> would be alot neater to use the maintenace plan because the maintenance
>> plan is more dynamic that the script. Suggestions?
>> Kelly
>>|||Conviently, we have tape backups that run at 4am (the db backups run
between 1 and 2 am). So if the job fails, we've still got yesterday's
backup on tape. If it fails as it did, i don't get in till 8am, so the
damage is done. Thanks for your help guys.
Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:
> "Edgardo Valdez, MCTS, MCITP, MCSD, MCDBA"
> <EdgardoValdezMCTSMCITPMCSDMCDBA@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:33C5A070-12C7-4123-A72F-179C900DEC03@.microsoft.com...
> > Yes. If you create a backup plan using the Database Maintenance Wizard,
> > you
> > can set the amount of time you want to keep the backup files. In SQL 2005
> > it
> > translates in a Maintenance Cleanup Task.
> >
> Right, 2000 is the same way. But as KellyLeia points out, that deletion
> occurs AFTER the backup completes... if successul.
> The problem is, if the backup fails, the deletion never occurs.
> In addtion, I'd caution against doing what Kelly wants to do. Because if
> the backup fails for another reason, you've already deleted one of your
> backups.
> Personally, I'd try to invest in more disk space if possible.
>
> > "KellyLeia@.gmail.com" wrote:
> >
> >> Is there anyway to make the maintenance plan delete the backup files
> >> BEFORE it backs up. My backups are failing due to lack of disk space,
> >> because it essentially creates two copies of backups before deleting.
> >> I know i can just write a script to delete them before hand, but it
> >> would be alot neater to use the maintenace plan because the maintenance
> >> plan is more dynamic that the script. Suggestions?
> >>
> >> Kelly
> >>
> >>

Database Maintenance - Order of Actions

Is there anyway to make the maintenance plan delete the backup files
BEFORE it backs up. My backups are failing due to lack of disk space,
because it essentially creates two copies of backups before deleting.
I know i can just write a script to delete them before hand, but it
would be alot neater to use the maintenace plan because the maintenance
plan is more dynamic that the script. Suggestions?
KellyYes. If you create a backup plan using the Database Maintenance Wizard, you
can set the amount of time you want to keep the backup files. In SQL 2005 it
translates in a Maintenance Cleanup Task.
"KellyLeia@.gmail.com" wrote:

> Is there anyway to make the maintenance plan delete the backup files
> BEFORE it backs up. My backups are failing due to lack of disk space,
> because it essentially creates two copies of backups before deleting.
> I know i can just write a script to delete them before hand, but it
> would be alot neater to use the maintenace plan because the maintenance
> plan is more dynamic that the script. Suggestions?
> Kelly
>|||"Edgardo Valdez, MCTS, MCITP, MCSD, MCDBA"
< EdgardoValdezMCTSMCITPMCSDMCDBA@.discussi
ons.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:33C5A070-12C7-4123-A72F-179C900DEC03@.microsoft.com...
> Yes. If you create a backup plan using the Database Maintenance Wizard,
> you
> can set the amount of time you want to keep the backup files. In SQL 2005
> it
> translates in a Maintenance Cleanup Task.
>
Right, 2000 is the same way. But as KellyLeia points out, that deletion
occurs AFTER the backup completes... if successul.
The problem is, if the backup fails, the deletion never occurs.
In addtion, I'd caution against doing what Kelly wants to do. Because if
the backup fails for another reason, you've already deleted one of your
backups.
Personally, I'd try to invest in more disk space if possible.
[vbcol=seagreen]
> "KellyLeia@.gmail.com" wrote:
>|||Conviently, we have tape backups that run at 4am (the db backups run
between 1 and 2 am). So if the job fails, we've still got yesterday's
backup on tape. If it fails as it did, i don't get in till 8am, so the
damage is done. Thanks for your help guys.
Greg D. Moore (Strider) wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> "Edgardo Valdez, MCTS, MCITP, MCSD, MCDBA"
> < EdgardoValdezMCTSMCITPMCSDMCDBA@.discussi
ons.microsoft.com> wrote in messa
ge
> news:33C5A070-12C7-4123-A72F-179C900DEC03@.microsoft.com...
> Right, 2000 is the same way. But as KellyLeia points out, that deletion
> occurs AFTER the backup completes... if successul.
> The problem is, if the backup fails, the deletion never occurs.
> In addtion, I'd caution against doing what Kelly wants to do. Because if
> the backup fails for another reason, you've already deleted one of your
> backups.
> Personally, I'd try to invest in more disk space if possible.
>

Database List for the currently logged in user

I can get a list of all databases in SQL Server using

sqlText = "select name from sysdatabases order by name".

How can I get such a list for the currently logged in user only?

Thanks in advance

Harold HoffmanI found it.

select name from sysdatabases where HAS_DBACCESS(name) = 1 order by name

Harold Hoffman